It's a long post and also very sensitive, you have been warned! Continue only if you wish.
Traveling together is one of the most wonderful ways to develop a good and honest friendship. If the place is as cool and beautiful as Coorg, it becomes even more easier. It was more than a year ago, when I, along with one of my juniors in dept. of Periodontics and also two professors (and also heads of department of periodontics in their respective colleges!) went for a Lasers in Periodontics seminar. Basil, my junior and a friend took his car and we all began one of the most memorable journeys together. As post graduate students we were in for a surprise as both the professors turned up in completely different moods (inside the department it's usually a bit scary to be around them). The conversation went on and the road trip from Mangalore to Coorg got over in a blink. We were greeted with awesome weather which is of course expected of Coorg. The Seminar began in a little boring fashion and then picked up really well in the afternoon and evening session.
There was a small banquet at night. The banquets are usually all about the boozing, but neither Basil nor I drink alcohol, so it became a buffet with some loud music for us. after socializing with the students of Coorg Institute of Dental Sciences, we returned to the hotel. There was no tension(!) of getting up early next day for college as it was a holiday for us due to seminar. Neither of us were feeling sleepy, so we decided to have some chitchat. We are quite different. Basil is an NRI (Dubai) and basically from Kerala where as I am from Gujarat. The names suggest we have different religions as well (My name is Hardik and I am a hindu, if you didn't know!). Even our sports and food preferences differ.
At one point, out of no where he asked me, if I believed in god?
Easy and quick answer from me was, "No".
He smiled.
"Why did you ask that?" I asked. I knew he was a religious man but an open minded one.
"Just wanted to know if you are religious or not. that's it." he replied.
"It's just that I have never been able to understand the concept of religion, and on top of that I see more harm being done in the name of religion every day than good. I haven't been able to pick one religion which could be blamed for that. I feel all are same, they all misguide the people" I added to explain my point of view.
He, however had a very different theory, which was interesting as well.
"I like religious people, because I can easily trust them." He said
"How is that related?" I was curious to know.
Why do we need fear of god to stop us from wrongdoing? We are probably the most intelligent species on the planet, and we do understand the difference between good and bad. Then why do we need an external motivation to stop us from doing something that is already known to be wrong? In an ideal scenario, we should not do the wrong things simply because they are wrong, not because they will lead us to hell and god will punish us for that. Personally, I believe that the reason does matter.
Fear is a strong emotion, perhaps the strongest or may be as strong as anger. A decision taken under fear is never considered legit even in the court of law. Fear can manipulate the strongest of minds. That is why religion and fear of god are dangerous. There are smart guys who know exactly how to play with fear of god. The worst part is, the fear of god is not the only thing that can manipulate people, the blind faith in god can also lead them into commiting despicable things. The crimes commited in the name of god are the most dangerous ones as there are no guilt or shame attached to them.
For sake of fair argument, let's say there is an almighty god who sees and listens everything and everyone and rewards or punishes accordingly. In this scenario, an atheist who understands the difference between good and bad, would still not require the fear of god to be a good human being.
But hey, stop right there. Who will teach us how to separate good from bad? This is one of the strongest argument in favour of any religion. Do we need religion to teach us the difference between good and bad? Did we learn to stay away from fire from religious books? Not at all. We experienced the fire and we knew it's dangerous. Our ancestors told us and we didn't even need to actually put our hands in fire to know it burns us! We learnt by experience and passing it on helped us even more. Grown ups have experienced both good and bad, they can just pass on the experience. simple, isn't it? Does reading the religious literature help? Yes, why not? It is one of my favourite ways of learning. But at the end of the reading what lessons you take is very important. From Geeta, we can learn to be honest and brave like Krishna and fight for what is right, or we can just say he is almighty and just worship him. It's up to us, what we gain from it.(I am a hindu and I have read lot of hindu literature, it's one of my favourite places to look for answers. I do not mean any disrespect to Krishna.).
Lastly, about the good and bad times in our life. Who do we reach out to, when we are all alone and find ourselves in trouble? Who do we thank when we are happy? God? Really? Why can't we have faith in ourselves instead of god? It's so much more acceptable. The thing that we control the most is what we do. And god, well he is almighty. How can we trust someone who is totally out of control and unseen? Logically speaking, it's far more easier and comforting to have faith in ourselves instead of god, about whom we only have our imaginations.
The main post ends here. Next is some personal blabbering! Read only if you are interested.
Well I guesss you are! It's been a very long time since I posted on blogger. I actually intended to be regular blogger though. This helps me find some peace. Post graduation exams are about 52 days away from today. Do let me know your thoughts through comments. If you feel it's worth it, then share it! Hope I'll come up with something soon.
Traveling together is one of the most wonderful ways to develop a good and honest friendship. If the place is as cool and beautiful as Coorg, it becomes even more easier. It was more than a year ago, when I, along with one of my juniors in dept. of Periodontics and also two professors (and also heads of department of periodontics in their respective colleges!) went for a Lasers in Periodontics seminar. Basil, my junior and a friend took his car and we all began one of the most memorable journeys together. As post graduate students we were in for a surprise as both the professors turned up in completely different moods (inside the department it's usually a bit scary to be around them). The conversation went on and the road trip from Mangalore to Coorg got over in a blink. We were greeted with awesome weather which is of course expected of Coorg. The Seminar began in a little boring fashion and then picked up really well in the afternoon and evening session.
There was a small banquet at night. The banquets are usually all about the boozing, but neither Basil nor I drink alcohol, so it became a buffet with some loud music for us. after socializing with the students of Coorg Institute of Dental Sciences, we returned to the hotel. There was no tension(!) of getting up early next day for college as it was a holiday for us due to seminar. Neither of us were feeling sleepy, so we decided to have some chitchat. We are quite different. Basil is an NRI (Dubai) and basically from Kerala where as I am from Gujarat. The names suggest we have different religions as well (My name is Hardik and I am a hindu, if you didn't know!). Even our sports and food preferences differ.
At one point, out of no where he asked me, if I believed in god?
Easy and quick answer from me was, "No".
He smiled.
"Why did you ask that?" I asked. I knew he was a religious man but an open minded one.
"Just wanted to know if you are religious or not. that's it." he replied.
"It's just that I have never been able to understand the concept of religion, and on top of that I see more harm being done in the name of religion every day than good. I haven't been able to pick one religion which could be blamed for that. I feel all are same, they all misguide the people" I added to explain my point of view.
He, however had a very different theory, which was interesting as well.
"I like religious people, because I can easily trust them." He said
"How is that related?" I was curious to know.
"It's simple. Religious people believe in god or any higher power. They have fear of god, which prevents them from any wrongdoing. But aethists..?! Uhh.. They are tricky, they have no fear of god, what can possibly stop them from doing wrong?" he explained the logic to me.He had made a very strong point. Probably he explained me entire concept of religion in that small explaination.
It's the "Fear of God" that keeps us all in check, or at least most of us.
Was it an eye opener for me? Yes, but it wasn't going to make me a religious man all of a sudden. All it did was, making me an even stronger atheist. I had a lot of questions in my head. Ofcourse it was quite late and we didn't continue the debate much further. It's been going on in my head eversince though and I am going to continue the debate here.
Why do we need fear of god to stop us from wrongdoing? We are probably the most intelligent species on the planet, and we do understand the difference between good and bad. Then why do we need an external motivation to stop us from doing something that is already known to be wrong? In an ideal scenario, we should not do the wrong things simply because they are wrong, not because they will lead us to hell and god will punish us for that. Personally, I believe that the reason does matter.
If I don't commit sins, due to fear of god, It does not make me a good person. That's called paranoia in my dictionary.
Fear is a strong emotion, perhaps the strongest or may be as strong as anger. A decision taken under fear is never considered legit even in the court of law. Fear can manipulate the strongest of minds. That is why religion and fear of god are dangerous. There are smart guys who know exactly how to play with fear of god. The worst part is, the fear of god is not the only thing that can manipulate people, the blind faith in god can also lead them into commiting despicable things. The crimes commited in the name of god are the most dangerous ones as there are no guilt or shame attached to them.
For sake of fair argument, let's say there is an almighty god who sees and listens everything and everyone and rewards or punishes accordingly. In this scenario, an atheist who understands the difference between good and bad, would still not require the fear of god to be a good human being.
Would god be angry with him just because he does not care about god, even if he is a good person? If god is what I have been taught, he would love that person the most! Guess what? God doesn't need to motivate him to be a good human being. Yay, one less guy to worry about!
But hey, stop right there. Who will teach us how to separate good from bad? This is one of the strongest argument in favour of any religion. Do we need religion to teach us the difference between good and bad? Did we learn to stay away from fire from religious books? Not at all. We experienced the fire and we knew it's dangerous. Our ancestors told us and we didn't even need to actually put our hands in fire to know it burns us! We learnt by experience and passing it on helped us even more. Grown ups have experienced both good and bad, they can just pass on the experience. simple, isn't it? Does reading the religious literature help? Yes, why not? It is one of my favourite ways of learning. But at the end of the reading what lessons you take is very important. From Geeta, we can learn to be honest and brave like Krishna and fight for what is right, or we can just say he is almighty and just worship him. It's up to us, what we gain from it.(I am a hindu and I have read lot of hindu literature, it's one of my favourite places to look for answers. I do not mean any disrespect to Krishna.).
Moral of the story: The best teacher is experience and not the religion. We have awesome literature in all religions, but we should know how to read and interpret. Or else it won't serve the purpose.
Lastly, about the good and bad times in our life. Who do we reach out to, when we are all alone and find ourselves in trouble? Who do we thank when we are happy? God? Really? Why can't we have faith in ourselves instead of god? It's so much more acceptable. The thing that we control the most is what we do. And god, well he is almighty. How can we trust someone who is totally out of control and unseen? Logically speaking, it's far more easier and comforting to have faith in ourselves instead of god, about whom we only have our imaginations.
So next time when you find your self in trouble, believe in your self not god. And when you find a reason to celebrate, never forget to thank your self for having selfbelief.
The main post ends here. Next is some personal blabbering! Read only if you are interested.
Well I guesss you are! It's been a very long time since I posted on blogger. I actually intended to be regular blogger though. This helps me find some peace. Post graduation exams are about 52 days away from today. Do let me know your thoughts through comments. If you feel it's worth it, then share it! Hope I'll come up with something soon.